1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit: Update on the Bow Seat Windows

Back in early November 2013, I was very excited to finally see my new bow seat windows arrive. While they looked great coming out of the crate, on closer examination I found problems with quality control on the welds and weld finishing that would almost certainly lead to premature coating failure. Sure, the coatings would probably last through the two-year warranty period. But since I’m paying far more for these three windows than I will for all of the other new tinted glass throughout the boat, I felt the quality should reflect the marketing claims of the manufacturer and the price.

After a bit of discussion with the manufacturer, Motion Windows agreed to take the windows back and remanufacture them to their usual high standard. That’s good because, in addition to the weld and paint work issues, I also found that the frames were not built to the dimensions I specified…two out of the three would not fit into the window holes!

Motion Windows’ auto CAD spec sheet for the starboard window

And for the center and port windows

And for the center and port windows

1" mark = zero

1″ mark = zero

The pic above is the center window, and I’m measuring it’s height.  Note that I aligned the 1″ mark with the edge of the frame that fits into the window opening to avoid inaccuracy from the stainless piece at the end of the tape measure. The spec sheet indicates a height of 12-15/16″ for the center windshield, which was exactly the size of the 1/4″ plywood template I sent them. That template would go through the entire depth of the window opening without touching the sides…but just by a whisker. Everything should fit great as long as the windows aren’t made larger than the specification.

Since 1" = 0, 14" = 13"

Since 1″ = 0, 14″ = 13″

As indicated in the pic, the window frame height is actually 13″, which is a full 1/16″ larger than specified. But it gets worse at the corners where the welds are…

Add 3/64"~1/16" for the welds

Add 3/64″~1/16″ for the welds

Set the 1" mark at the edge of the weld and...

Set the 1″ mark at the edge of the weld and…

It's 13-1/8" (because we started at 1") on the far side of the opposite weld

It’s 13-1/16″ (because we started at 1″) on the far side of the opposite weld

A window that’s 13-1/16″ tall at the corners where the welds protrude cannot fit into a hole that’s 12-15/16″ in height. And if you look closely, that’s a heavy 13-1/16″…maybe even 13-3/32″. Either way, the windows are too big to fit in the holes, and I’m not grinding into my brand new Awlgrip paint job to make room!

Fortunately, Motion Windows did hold up on their end of the bargain. The windows are back in the crate and will be shipped back to the West Coast on Monday. I should get the new windows back in 30 days or so. While I’m not happy with the way things went, I have to commend Motion for standing behind their product and promising to improve their quality control.

Next up in our 1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit: Window Pains II


3 comments on “1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 Refit: Update on the Bow Seat Windows

  1. boatnut23 says:

    It’s nice to see someone with more ambition than I have. Thank you for taking the time to share this great experience with us. Looking forward to all that there is to come with your beautiful vessel.

    Thanks from one Boat nut to another.

  2. Siah Brown says:

    i always look forward to see your progress. what a great job you are doing to bring this grand lady back to her glory. thank you for taking time to document the hard work. this brings back so many memories of my father and i with the boats he had. i learned to adjust valves on a 327f long before i could drive. my father took the time and patience to show me and explain what i was doing. i stood on my head in the bilge many hours! dad had a friend who had a 46 just like yours. my pop had a cavalier,roamer,and two different commanders over a twenty year period so i had plenty of material to work with! keep up the great work and postings.

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